The Truth About Older (50+) Salespeople

Wisdom is the knowledge base that will assist our future leaders.

Imagine if you will a time when you are getting a little bit older, a touch grayer and you start reflecting on what are you going to do when you get too mature for the industry you are in.

I have always had this question, but never bold enough to write about it. I’ve had a lot of opinions on this as the market is getting younger by the minute. People want to put millennials on pedestals and assume they are the next coming of…well whatever. I do not. But what I do say is they are dang smart. We Xers can learn tons from them.

The problem, however, is they lack the experience of hitting a curve ball. This can be taught of course, but won’t happen until they have failed a number of times. Knowledge and wisdom come from experience, not case studies.

I don’t fear getting older. I love it. I don’t fear millennials, I encourage them. 1+1 = power. Let’s embrace learning from one another. By the way, I am not 50+!!!

~The Organic Recruiter

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The Truth About Older (50+) Salespeople

 | Technology Sales Author, Sales Researcher, Founder Heavy Hitter Sales Training, USC Faculty

It is still hard times for salespeople (and sales managers) over 50 today. When companies downsize, they find themselves five times more likely to be let go when compared to their younger counterparts. They also have a more difficult time finding new jobs because younger sales managers have five basic fears about hiring someone older than themselves:

They are Un-coachable. Younger sales managers fear older salespeople are set in their ways and won’t take their directions.

They aren’t Technically Savvy. Younger sales managers fear they haven’t ingrained technology (smartphones, e-mail, and web-based sales force automation) into their daily working routine (nor are they up-to-date on the internet, social media, etc.).

They are “Washed Up.” Younger sales managers fear older reps are burned out from too many years “carrying the bag.”

They Have a Poor Work Ethic.  For a variety of family, personal, or health reasons, younger sales managers question how hard they will work.

They Really Want My Job! Perhaps the biggest fear of a younger manager is that he is hiring someone who may upstage him or her in the eyes of senior management in order to fulfill an ulterior motive of taking over their job.

Given these fears, I would like to offer five factors sales managers should consider when choosing between younger and more senior salespeople.

  1. Do you have to Sell to the C-Level? The C-level Executive sell is based upon establishing credibility and trust. Who do think has an easier time establishing rapport with senior executives; a 26 or 56 year old salesperson?
  2. It’s about relationships (not Rolodexes). Never hire any salesperson solely based on their Rolodex (if you’re under 30 you might have to look this word up) of customer contacts they claim to possess. Hire the salesperson who has a successful track record at penetrating new accounts and proven their ability of turning aloof prospects into close friends.
  3. Wit. Most companies make previous experience in the same industry their main criterion for hiring. Since these salespeople command the industry nomenclature, they are assumed to be qualified candidates. A more important hiring criterion is how candidates respond to pressure. In other words, how quick-witted or fast on their feet are they? What is their ability to learn quickly? Are they able to solve complex problems in real time? In this regard, don’t judge a book by its cover and assume a little gray hair means a lot less grey matter.
  4. Sales is a Mentor-based Profession. Sales organizations are mentor-based environments. Inexperienced salespeople don’t know what they haven’t seen for themselves. Usually, it’s through the “school of hard knocks” that they gain their experience. Unfortunately, this takes time. The entire sales team can benefit from emulating salespeople who have accumulated a reservoir of experience working with customers.
  5. Who Do You Trust!?! Peek into the cockpit as you board your next commercial flight. Chances are you are putting your life in the hands of one of the 70,000 airline pilots that are over 50 years old.

About the Author:  Steve W. Martin is the author of the “Heavy Hitter” series of books for senior salespeople on the human nature of complex sales. The Heavy Hitter corporate sales training program has helped over 100,000 salespeople become top revenue producers. Steve is a frequent contributor to the Harvard Business Review and he teaches at the University of Southern California Marshall Business School MBA program. Visit www.stevewmartin.com to learn more.

JOB OPENINGS AND LABOR TURNOVER – APRIL 2016

I found a report that I really like as it tells a truer story rather than how many jobs the US created of which whoever the president is, if it looks good they claim it to be their doing. If not good, it was the last president or the commercial sector is not doing their job. ~this is not a political rant, I promise.

Ratio:

Job Openings Hires Separations
5.8 million 5.1 million 5.0 million

As you look at these seemingly good numbers (hires are higher than separation), remember there were still 7.9 million in April.

The numbers are looking good once again.  However, please do your due diligence and know that these numbers don’t necessarily talk about the people that have taken themselves out of the workforce or are underemployed.*

Summary

The number of job openings was little changed at 5.8 million on the last business day of April, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Hires edged down to 5.1 million while separations were little changed at 5.0 million. Within separations, the quits rate was 2.0 percent, and the layoffs and discharges rate was 1.1 percent. This release includes estimates of the number and rate of job openings, hires, and separations for the nonfarm sector by industry and by four geographic regions.

Job Openings

Job openings were little changed at 5.8 million in April. The job openings rate was 3.9 percent. The number of job openings was little changed in April for total private and for government. Job openings increased in a number of industries, with the largest changes occurring in wholesale trade (+65,000), transportation, warehousing, and utilities (+58,000), durable goods manufacturing (+46,000), and real estate and rental and leasing (+41,000). Job openings decreased in professional and business services (-274,000). The number of job openings was little changed in all four regions.

Hires

The number of hires edged down to 5.1 million in April. The hires rate was 3.5 percent. The number of hires was little changed in April for total private and edged down for government (-31,000). Hires were little changed in all industries in April and decreased in the Midwest region.

Separations

Total separations includes quits, layoffs and discharges, and other separations. Total separations is referred to as turnover. Quits are generally voluntary separations initiated by the employee. Therefore, the quits rate can serve as a measure of workers’ willingness or ability to leave jobs. Layoffs and discharges are involuntary separations initiated by the employer. Other separations includes separations due to retirement, death, and disability, as well as transfers to other locations of the same firm.

There were 5.0 million total separations in April, little changed from March. The total separations rate in April was 3.5 percent. The number of total separations was little changed over the month for total private and for government. All industries experienced little change in total separations over the month. In the regions, the number of total separations declined in the Midwest.

The number of quits was little changed in April at 2.9 million. The quits rate was 2.0 percent. Over the month, the number of quits was little changed for total private and for government. Quits increased in arts, entertainment, and recreation (+15,000) but decreased in construction (-45,000) and mining and logging (-5,000). The number of quits decreased in the Northeast region.

There were 1.6 million layoffs and discharges in April, little changed from March. The layoffs and discharges rate was 1.1 percent. The number of layoffs and discharges was little changed over the month for total private and for government. In April, layoffs and discharges declined in professional and business services (-81,000). In the regions, layoffs and discharges decreased in the Midwest.

In April, other separations edged up for total nonfarm and for total private, and was little changed for government. The number of other separations rose in health care and social assistance (+20,000), accommodation and food services (+13,000), and information (+7,000). The number of other separations was little changed over the month in all four regions.

Net Change in Employment

Large numbers of hires and separations occur every month throughout the business cycle. Net employment change results from the relationship between hires and separations. When the number of hires exceeds the number of separations, employment rises, even if the hires level is steady or declining. Conversely, when the number of hires is less than the number of separations, employment declines, even if the hires level is steady or rising. Over the 12 months ending in April, hires totaled 62.4 million and separations totaled 59.7 million, yielding a net employment gain of 2.7 million. These totals include workers who may have been hired and separated more than once during the year.

For the full report: http://www.bls.gov/news.release/jolts.nr0.htm

Behind shrinking middle-class jobs: A surge in outsourcing

I want you to think about where you grew up and who your friends’ parents were and what they did to make sure you had a bed to sleep in. I am not saying this article is all skewed to WTH are we doing by outsourcing (offshoring or even next door). I believe we all need to always be accountable and make sure you stay sharp on your skills.

But my point is my mom worked for RTD (you LA folks know who RTD is) for 28 years on low blue-collar wages; Mr. Perez, my best friend’s dad had his own landscaping business that he started from scratch with no financial help. Mr. Sosa, had his office cleaning business. Now imagine if these 3 people lost their contracts and jobs because it was cheaper to go elsewhere. I can think of 9 kids who’d probably be on the streets as a result. Thank goodness none of them lost their jobs, but in the story below, Mr. Molena lost his trade over night after 20 years.

This story is to remind you when the employment numbers come out tomorrow (I’ll publish them for you on this site), remember the underemployed do not get counted in these “great” unemployment stories we have been hearing about. Mr. Molena probably has not been back to El Salvador since 2000 as his annual salary has gone down 37% not including inflation. 

The grass may be greener at times, but doesn’t always tell the whole story. ~The Organic Recruiter


By Don Lee, LA Times | June 30th, 2016

By 2000 he was earning about $45,000 a year, enough to support his wife and two children in a spacious apartment and take periodic vacations to El Salvador and Hawaii. He had health insurance, a matching 401(k) plan, and a company-supplied cellphone and vehicle. But it all unraveled in 2005 after his employer, Bank of America, subcontracted the work to Diebold Inc., a firm specializing in servicing ATMs.

Today Molena drives a truck long-haul for about $30,000 a year, putting him in the bottom third of household incomes. He has no medical insurance. “I cannot afford it,” he snapped.

Globalization and the offshoring of U.S. manufacturing jobs to China and other cheap-labor countries are commonly blamed for driving down the wages and living standards of ordinary American workers, but there is another, less-known factor behind the shrinking middle class: domestic outsourcing.

From human resource workers and customer service reps to cooks, janitors and security guards, many occupations have been farmed out by employers over the years. No one knows their total numbers, but rough estimates based on the growth of temporary-help and other business and professional service payrolls suggest that one in six jobs today are subcontracted, or almost 20 million positions, said Lynn Reaser, economist at Point Loma Nazarene University in San Diego.

Separate Labor Department data show that some of these occupations have seen a significant decline in inflation-adjusted, or real, wages over the last decade.

In 2005, there were 138,210 workers nationwide who repaired ATMs, computers and other office machines, earning a mean annual salary of $37,640.

Ten years later, the number of such jobs had shrunk to 106,100, with most of them subcontracted at annual pay of $38,990. But after accounting for inflation, that’s a drop of about 15% from 2005.

By contrast, real wages for all occupations rose 1.3% between 2005 and 2015 – itself a tiny gain over the last decade, but still significantly more than those hit by domestic outsourcing.

“If a firm wants to save labor costs, outsourcing is just a way of resetting wages and expectations,” said Susan Houseman, a senior economist at the W.E. Upjohn Institute for Employment Research in Kalamazoo, Mich.

Unlike the effect of offshoring, with its relocation of jobs and plants abroad, economists know relatively little about the extent and effects of decades of subcontracting production and services to third parties in the U.S. But what research has been done suggests the practice has played a significant role in the nation’s troubling trends of stagnating wages and rising inequality.

Rosemary Batt and other researchers at Cornell University found that large employers at subcontracted call centers, for instance, paid their workers about 40% less than comparable workers employed in-house at large firms, not including the value of health and retirement benefits.

That disparity is partly because large companies are often sensitive to what is called “internal equity” or fairness in pay among co-workers at the same company. They have far less concern about paying outside employees lower salaries. Unionization also plays a role.

In a recent paper, Houseman, Batt and economist Eileen Appelbaum said that while the data are limited, there are indications that domestic outsourcing is much more prevalent than generally recognized and that the trend is “profoundly affecting the quality of jobs and the nature of the employment contract for a significant portion of the American workforce.”

Cutting labor costs isn’t the only reason firms outsource. Outside vendors can bring unique capabilities – such as customer research – and help companies adapt to the spikes and dips in business by reducing staffing levels without undergoing expensive in-house layoffs.

“Banks want to focus on core service and to be able to outsource all this other stuff,” said Ralph Spinelli, vice president at HTx Services who previously headed ATM support at Citigroup. Citigroup and BofA  declined to comment for this story. Diebold wouldn’t comment beyond saying they pay competitively.

In years past, employers were reluctant to outsource because it meant losing control and risking harm to the corporate brand. But those concerns have been eased by advanced monitoring technologies and communication capabilities.

Outsourcing “has contributed to the breakdown of cultural norms in which companies had their own employees who reflected values of the companies,” said Appelbaum, senior economist at the Center for Economic and Policy Research who has studied subcontracting in healthcare.

As Molena’s case shows, the effect of domestic outsourcing has not been confined to unskilled – or temporary workers. After his layoff at BofA, he never worked in that field again, unable to find anything close to what he earned before.

“They were the beautiful years,” said Molena, 63, reminiscing inside his white semi cab as it rumbled along a Georgia highway.

People working in trades such as carpentry have taken a hit too. Recent years have seen the rise of outsourcing even in professional ranks, like accountants and lawyers.

“You have even doctors on demand,”  Appelbaum said. The trend is growing, she said, because employers have become wary of adding employees and taking on the responsibilities that come with that, including training them and looking after their needs.

The growth of outsourcing partly explains why so many millions of Americans have tumbled down the economic ladder. As a result, the middle class no longer constitutes a majority.

Data compiled by the Pew Research Center shows that in the early 1970s, middle-income households accounted for 61% of the population. By last year, the proportion of middle-income households in the nation had slipped to a notch below 50%.

The call-center industry provides one of the starkest examples. At one time, providing telephone customer sales and service was done almost entirely by internal employees at big firms. Today much of the work has shifted overseas, primarily the Philippines, as well as to subcontractors in low-wage regions of the U.S.

Alexis Perez, 41, is one of the lucky ones. He works as a sales associate in New York for Verizon, making about $74,000 a year. That is more than double the average pay for customer service representatives nationwide. But’s he’s not sure how long it will last.

Earlier this year Perez and other members of the Communication Workers of America went on strike for nearly seven weeks, in part because Verizon sought to outsource and reduce its call-center staff.

While the union largely staved off that bid by Verizon, at least for the next four years of the contract, Perez said he was “absolutely concerned about the future….If the company outsources, there’s going to be no jobs left.”

don.lee@latimes.com | originally published on LA Times 

Millennials: You’re Not That Cool

One of the biggest conundrums of companies to date is “what do I do about millennials?”, “how do we hire millennials?, and “how do we change for them?”.  The simple truth is you do nothing different and by all means, you don’t change for them.

It’s just like you have always done, you want the right candidate for the right job. You don’t change your identity or your culture for your friends, do you? Why should you do that for your company? Millennials are amazing and bright young adults. Remember when you wanted to change the world when you were their age? Did the companies change for you? Of course not.

As William Wallace said, “Hoooolllld, Hoooolllld!”. It’ll be okay guys. We will survive and this generation will take us to the next level. Be patient. ~ The Organic Recruiter


By – Candy Store | June 6th, 2016 ~ I asked a good friend (who chose anonymity) of mine who has been recruiting for top talent for a decade to give an undercover thought on talent today. For more candy just ask and I will go to the store.

Have you ever looked at a Millennial resume and thought “Why on Earth are you deemed the most important generation to recruit?” I have. I do often. I look at the resumes coming through and read all the articles about how we need to focus on recruiting this generation by tailoring to their expectations and think to myself: WHY? What makes this generation so special?

Well friends, I have to tell you: conception, perception, reception.

Conception

Every generation has a name. In a way, each one of us has been categorized and generalized with standard attributes of the relative generation. We are conceived and then misconceived due to these generalities awarded. There is truth to it but varying degrees.

Generation Name Births Starting Births Ending
Baby Boomer Generation 1945 1964
Generation X 1961 1981
Generation Y – The Millennials – Gen Next 1975 1995
Generation Z – iGen 1995 2015

Perception

Did Millennials make themselves special or were they designated as the special generation because of the luxuries they have from an inspiring environment? Did they become a byproduct of Gen X where inventions and dreams were evolving? There is an abundance in technology and ideas are enabled to flourish.  Was Gen X taken for granted because it seems we have focused our attention on the Millennials?  If Gen X had not paved the path, would the Millennials still be who they are today? Maybe the Millennials aren’t the Cool Kids. . .maybe it was the generation before them?

“Baby Boomers are exiting the workforce; a greater number of Millennials will join the workforce. It is estimated that Millennial workers (those born between 1980 and 2000) will comprise one-half of the workforce by 2020.” According to Evren Esen, SHRM-SCP and Director of Survey Programs at SHRM.

Reception

Gen X is middle to upper management today. The middle management workers are coaching and developing the Millennials. Gen X received the responsibility of bridging the gap between Baby Boomers who are now executive management, and Millennials who are the dominant workforce. Millennials were received by other generations with an apprehension because of the expectations and aloofness they exhibit. They are a generation that has not matured enough to define a goal.  As interviews take place, often times you will see the classic Zoolander look loom on a Millennial’s face quietly saying “Who am I?”

Millennials are known for wanting to change the world. Let’s take a moment and acknowledge had prior generations not shared the same desire, we would be stagnant. As it stands, we are not. We are constantly evolving and that is the product of all generations combined, not just Millennials.

Are Millennials special and unique? Yes.  So is everyone else.  As we embark on our journey to recruit talent, it is healthy to take a step back and realize the tactic to recruit Millennials is no different than what has been there all along:

  • Respect, develop and appreciate talent.
  • Drive purpose to your organization.
  • Take the time to embrace change, not fear it.

EMPLOYMENT RATE – APRIL 2016

My 2 cents on the low unemployment rate: This is a simple case of supply and demand.  We are fortunate to have a thriving country and most of us are working. Conversely, in talent acquisition, we need to find ways of finding the great people.  The purple squirrels and unicorns are not going to just call us.  So we need to work our multi-prong approach to find them before your competitor does.

What does that mean? Well it means employee referrals, job boards, your talent in your ATS that you are not or cannot find, social recruiting, your network and many other ideas of recruitment mix.

Are you prepared for this lack of supply and high demand? I can help.

The numbers are looking good once again.  However, please do your due diligence and know that these numbers don’t necessarily talk about the people that have taken themselves out of the workforce or are underemployed.*

Household Survey Data

In April, the unemployment rate held at 5.0 percent, and the number of unemployed persons was little changed at 7.9 million. Both measures have shown little movement since August.

Among the major worker groups, the unemployment rate for Hispanics increased to 6.1 percent in April, while the rates for adult men (4.6 percent), adult women (4.5 percent), teenagers (16.0 percent), Whites (4.3 percent), Blacks (8.8 percent), and Asians (3.8 percent) showed little or no change.

The number of long-term unemployed (those jobless for 27 weeks or more) declined by 150,000 to 2.1 million in April. These individuals accounted for 25.7 percent of the unemployed.

In April, the labor force participation rate decreased to 62.8 percent, and the employment-population ratio edged down to 59.7 percent.

The number of persons employed part time for economic reasons (also referred to as involuntary part-time workers) was about unchanged in April at 6.0 million and has shown little movement since November. These individuals, who would have preferred full-time employment, were working part time because their hours had been cut back or because they were unable to find a full-time job.

In April, 1.7 million persons were marginally attached to the labor force, down by 400,000 from a year earlier. (The data are not seasonally adjusted.) These individuals were not in the labor force, wanted and were available for work, and had looked for a job sometime in the prior 12 months. They were not counted as unemployed because they had not searched for work in the 4 weeks preceding the survey.

Among the marginally attached, there were 568,000 discouraged workers in April, down by 188,000 from a year earlier. (The data are not seasonally adjusted.) Discouraged workers are persons not currently looking for work because they believe no jobs are available for them. The remaining 1.1 million persons marginally attached to the labor force in April had not searched for work for reasons such as school attendance or family responsibilities.

Establishment Survey Data

Job creation this month went down from 215,000. Total nonfarm payroll employment increased by 160,000 in April. Over the prior 12 months, employment growth had averaged 232,000 per month. In April, employment gains occurred in professional and business services, health care, and financial activities, while mining continued to lose jobs.

Professional and business services added 65,000 jobs in April. The industry added an average of 51,000 jobs per month over the prior 12 months. In April, job gains occurred in management and technical consulting services (+21,000) and in computer systems design and related services (+7,000).

In April, health care employment rose by 44,000, with most of the increase occurring in hospitals (+23,000) and ambulatory health care services (+19,000). Over the year, health care employment has increased by 502,000.

Employment in financial activities rose by 20,000 in April, with credit intermediation and related activities (+8,000) contributing to the gain. Financial activities has added 160,000 jobs over the past 12 months.

Mining employment continued to decline in April (-7,000). Since reaching a peak in September 2014, employment in mining has decreased by 191,000, with more than three-quarters of the loss in support activities for mining.

Employment in other major industries, including construction, manufacturing, wholesale trade, retail trade, transportation and warehousing, information, leisure and hospitality, and government, showed little or no change over the month.

The average workweek for all employees on private nonfarm payrolls increased by 0.1 hour to 34.5 hours in April. The manufacturing workweek and overtime remained unchanged at 40.7 hours and 3.3 hours, respectively. The average workweek for production and nonsupervisory employees on private nonfarm payrolls was up by 0.1 hour to 33.7 hours.

In April, average hourly earnings for all employees on private nonfarm payrolls increased by 8 cents to $25.53, following an increase of 6 cents in March. Over the year, average hourly earnings have risen by 2.5 percent. In April, average hourly earnings of private-sector production and nonsupervisory employees increased by 5 cents to $21.45.

The change in total nonfarm payroll employment for February was revised from +245,000 to +233,000, and the change for March was revised from +215,000 to +208,000. With these revisions, employment gains in February and March combined were 19,000 less than previously reported. Over the past 3 months, job gains have averaged 200,000 per month.

For the full report: http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf